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July 20, 2005
Telegraph: Mark Steyn takes on multiculturalism
Filed in: Current Affairs, Domestic Terror, Politics, War on Terror

The Telegraph is the UK's more conservative newspaper.

In a sobering look at the "enemy at the gates" situation that the British find themselves in, Mark Steyn, in his July, 19th column, exposes the cultural vulnerability that lead to the London attacks. He opens with:

It has been sobering this past week watching some of my "woollier" colleagues (in Vicki Woods's self-designation) gradually awake to the realisation that the real suicide bomb is "multiculturalism". Its remorseless tick-tock, suddenly louder than the ethnic drumming at an anti-globalisation demo, drove poor old Boris Johnson into rampaging around this page last Thursday like some demented late-night karaoke one-man Fiddler on the Roof, stamping his feet and bellowing, "Tradition! Tradition!" Boris's plea for more Britishness was heartfelt and valiant, but I'm not sure I'd bet on it. The London bombers were, to the naked eye, assimilated - they ate fish 'n' chips, played cricket, sported appalling leisurewear. They'd adopted so many trees we couldn't see they lacked the big overarching forest - the essence of identity, of allegiance. As I've said before, you can't assimilate with a nullity - which is what multiculturalism is.

Hmmm, Mark Steyn thinks that allegiance is the essential measure. I'm glad to be in such company.

Then there's:

Consider the Bishop of Lichfield, who at Evensong, on the night of the bombings, was at pains to assure his congregants: "Just as the IRA has nothing to do with Christianity, so this kind of terror has nothing to do with any of the world faiths." It's not so much the explicit fatuousness of the assertion so much as the broader message it conveys: we're the defeatist wimps; bomb us and we'll apologise to you. That's why in Britain the Anglican Church is in a death-spiral and Islam is the fastest-growing religion. There's no market for a faith that has no faith in itself. And as the Church goes so goes the state: why introduce identity cards for a nation with no identity?

In a country that has an official state church this can be said. Steyn blames the spiritual bankruptcy of the Anglican church, coupled with its pervasive PC multicultural mentality for part of their woes.

Chillingly, Steyn provides a glimpse into the close connection between friend and foe:

One of the striking features of the post-9/11 world is the minimal degree of separation between the so-called "extremists" and the establishment: Princess Haifa, wife of the Saudi ambassador to Washington, gives $130,000 to accomplices of the 9/11 terrorists; the head of the group that certifies Muslim chaplains for the US military turns out to be a bagman for terrorists; one of the London bombers gets given a tour of the House of Commons by a Labour MP. The Guardian hires as a "trainee journalist" a member of Hizb ut Tahir, "Britain's most radical Islamic group" (as his own newspaper described them) and in his first column post-7/7 he mocks the idea that anyone could be "shocked" at a group of Yorkshiremen blowing up London: "Second- and third-generation Muslims are without the don't-rock-the-boat attitude that restricted our forefathers. We're much sassier with our opinions, not caring if the boat rocks" - or the bus blows, or the Tube vaporises. Fellow Guardian employee David Foulkes, who was killed in the Edgware Road blast, would no doubt be heartened to know he'd died for the cause of Muslim "sassiness".

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Wow. This has to be the lamest, most soggy arsed excuse for a blog I've ever seen. No doubt you think we should've nuked Ireland in the 80s. In fact, considering the IRA was funded by America, we should've nuked you too. Dipshit.

EMCEE: Nice to meet you Leo. I would note that I have not suggested a nuclear solution for Ireland, nor the present conditions we find ourselves in. It does appear that it is something that is occupying your thoughts. Good thing you aren't the guy with the button. Otherwise, your comment demonstrates to me that we are doing good work. Thanks.

Posted by: Leo Kearse at Jul 21, 2005 6:33:18 AM

I think you misunderstand me. I'll have another go to see if you can grasp this.

The essence of your argument is that multiculturalism is to blame for the attacks of 7/7 and that there is little difference between radical and moderate Islam (implying that all Muslims are at fault and should be targeted).

Let me explain. In the 80s, London suffered terrorist bomb attacks from the IRA. The IRA were funded largely by donations made by Americans through NORAID.

If we take the logic that you've applied to the current terror attacks and apply it to the IRA bombings, you would recommend bombing Ireland (as the source of terrorists), the US (as the main backers of the terrorists) and all white Christians (coz you can't be too sure, eh!).

You also fail to see that persecuting moderate Muslims will only bolster support for the terrorists. Unless your solution is genocide, persecuting moderate Muslims is unlikely to result in a decrease in terror.

Then again, you probably think genocide against Muslims would be ok...

EMCEE: It appears that you are fulfilling your own fantasies Leo. I didn't say any of the things that you present as something I am promulgating - and in this post anyway I'm mostly quoting Mark Steyn - and he didn't say any of those things either.
...little difference between radical and moderate Islam (implying that all Muslims are at fault and should be targeted).

Nope - didn't say there was little difference - what I would say to moderates is "DECLARE your difference" - I applaud any and all repudiation of terror by moderate Muslims. I am in no way suggesting that we treat moderates and terrorists the same - that's ludicrous.

There is simply no linkage between IRA and Islamofascist Jihad. If you want to fantasize a link go ahead. I offer no view on it.

I did not and have not in any place suggested that we 'bomb' moderate Muslims. I'm certainly in favor of killing terrorists.

Neither did I suggest that moderate Muslims be persecuted. The only action I have suggested in any of my posts in regard to moderate Muslims is for them to distinguish themselves by repudiating terrorism. If that's your definition of 'persecution' then anything anyone asks of anybody likely meets the definition.

Then again, you probably think genocide against Muslims would be ok...

Rubbish.

I do believe that I hear your Mum calling you...

Posted by: Leo Kearse at Jul 25, 2005 8:50:45 AM

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